other side of the veil

/dimentions other than phisical reality on earth;
other dimensions/realms

< New Earth 8 > You are now taking responsibility. You are the leader of your own team. You do not need other entities coming in here directing you or keeping you in balance. You are beginning to do that for yourself. But yet while still being a human, there needs to be those who pull strings on the other side of the veil on your behalf. But, friends, you are the commanders. You are the creators. Do not give your power to another - only to yourself and the God-Self and the Christ-Self that you are.

< New Earth 8 > These are the ones that we will call "runners." They are the entities that gladly and joyfully serve you, gladly and joyfully serve you. And when you command, when you intend and you create, they are the ones that will move energies in response to your intentions, appropriately on the other side of the veil. They are needed on a somewhat short-term basis for you, for you are still not used to working with the other side of the veil. You will learn soon, but you are still under the veil. These runners, these loving entities, will be in service to you.

< New Earth 13 > Your old house was primarily designed to allow you to experience and to maneuver on your side of the veil. It was designed specifically so that there was not interplay in your conscious state to our side of the veil. Have you ever wondered why, when you prayed so earnestly and with so many tears to the angels and to Spirit, your prayers were not answered for you? It was because the veil did not allow that to happen. Your old house would not allow that to happen.

< Creator 4QA > It is to honor her for all she has brought into your life. When one departs Earth and come back to our side of the veil, they often bring with them guilt and tears of sadness. There is energy that they bring back over. It is best to simply honor them. We are somewhat harsh here with you tonight, but so many humans pray for one who has crossed over to the other side, praying that they go to heaven, praying that there is no bad thing for them, like going to hell, praying that they find the right space.

My dear, and all who are here, simply honor them and thank them for the process, for being part of your life. You do not so much understand the energy that we are in back here. We are often curious why you are praying for them to go to someplace that even we do not understand or see. At times it can be confusing to them because there is an energy that is placed around their being that is trying to direct them to a place that does not necessarily exist!

Now, indeed there are legions of angels who guide those who are recently departed safely back on the journey. But it would give those who have crossed over the greatest joy if they looked back and saw another human honoring them. It would begin to dissolve the veil so quickly when they look back and could see that you understood the journey.

< Creator 5 > The angels on the other side of the veil are the ones who went in search of you when you went on your long journey that one night. We are the ones that the king and the queen asked to go search for you. We are the ones that followed your footsteps through the kingdom of sIAM, to the sands of the ocean. When we came to that place, dear friends, we knew that you had gone out onto the fabled waters, beyond All That Is. And we rejoiced when we got there, for none other that we knew of at the time had ever done that. We rejoiced to know that you cared so deeply and loved Spirit so much that you chose to go on this long journey for something that would serve all of us.

< Creator 9 > The guides would collect this energy, and then another group (runners) would come in when these vessels were full. This group would take the vessels and replace them with new empty ones. They would take this incredible honey of substance - golden and sweet and nurturing - back on the other side of the veil. This energy would be used to continue creating your universe. This energy would find its way back to the kingdom from whence you came. This golden honey energy that you were producing here on Earth through your enlightenments and understandings would find its way to the kingdom to change the very nature of Home, to expand All That Is. It was the greatest gift of love that any entity has ever given. And you wonder why we honor you and why we weep when we sit in front of you, knowing that you don't recognize who you are!

< Creator 9 > There was a group, and there continues to be a group, that we call the "runners." They are the ones that go back and forth from your side of the veil to ours. They are the ones that continue to serve as messengers and adjusters of energy. They are the ones that take things of your dimension of duality, that are in your consciousness. They then help to facilitate bringing these energies back through the other side of the veil. They are runners, for they run the energy from you back to the other side, and then they bring back with them the new tools, the new vessels, and the new energy. They are very busy these days, these runners, for there is much work that you are doing! They no longer interface with the guides. It used to be that the runners would work directly with your guides. The guides were always positioned like pillars of love directly beside you. Now the runners, dear friends, are seeking to work directly with you.

< Creator 9QA > There are teams of angels who do nothing but wait for you to come back between lifetimes. They know how to work with you when you return. Do you know when you return to our side you carry such strong attributes of your human experience that many times you do not even see us, the angels? If you have not believed in us, or if you have shut us off, it is difficult to reconnect when you come back. You bring back the attributes, and particularly the strong emotions, that you carried on Earth. There are teams of angels who work to help bring you back into a spiritual balance, back to the angel that you truly are. These teams help to adjust and release the energies of the human experience that you just went through. There are those who return to our side of the veil who require much time, much energy, much love and nurturing. It can take hundreds of years of times and maybe more. When there are those who come back with strong emotions or who have gone through trauma, it can take much, much time for them to open their eyes and to awaken into this place that is like 'a home away from Home'.

< Ascension 8 > There are also those from the Crimson Council who come in today. This is the family that you join when you come back to this side of the veil. This is like a Home away from Home for you. When you reunite with those who you had known in the most immediate lifetime of yours… and you hugged your grandmother… and you hugged that dog that you loved so much as a child… then, you realize that all things are all right. And, you realize that there is purpose and meaning and flow in Spirit.

When you get back to this side, then generally you return to the energetic family of the Crimson. You return to this group that you have spent so much time with, this group that has been working with the understandings of the energy of teaching. You return to those who you have known since nearly the beginning of your time, those that you have worked with in helping to create this universe and this beautiful place called Earth.

< DivineHuman 1 > As you know, Metatron is you. Metatron is your voice in Spirit. Metatron is the representation of your God-self. It is part of your consciousness that you were not able to bring into your human level when you came here. It was part of your soul that stayed on the other side.

< DivineHuman 1QA > It is busy here. (more audience laughter) When the ones who make the transition from your side to ours come over, they are amazed at how busy it is. There is activity all around. There is commotion all around. There is chatter and talking and activity and planning. We are trying… and we are tired. But, we are trying to respond to your changing consciousness, and at times we have a difficult time keeping up with it. You are changing so fast and releasing so much. Do you know, each time you release something, there is a TREMENDOUS amount of work on our side. (more laughter) Now, Cauldre tells me that my old Jewish side is coming out right now! We are worked to the bone over here! (more laughter)

When you change your consciousness about an event that happened in the past, whether it was this lifetime or another, you do not change the sequence of events that took place. You only change the enlightenment around them. When you decide to release an old fear that went back 15 lifetimes ago, we have to be part of that process. We have to go back 15 lifetimes ago. We have to send a whole team back there to help change the energies. (more laughter)

We are delighted to do this, for this is OUR job. This is what we are here for. But, we never realized there would be so much work and so much activity. We are enjoying it, but quite frankly, Cauldre… you thought it was a joke about doing a Rest Stop weekend when Shaumbra simply ceased? We are relieved that you are doing this! (more laughter) It is no joke at all! We don't have scheduled vacations and weekends off like you do. So, this was a delight for us.

How are things going on our side? We will defer to Metatron who says, "We couldn't have imagined it any better! It is challenging and difficult for all of us. But, we couldn't have imagined it. You know, of course, that there were scenarios of potential Earth destruction, which we did not want to have to go through with you. What we are doing now is building the New Energy that you are going into. We are building the New Energy for generations to come, and not only generations of humans, but of spiritual entities who will live in the very New Energy that you are helping to create."

< DivineHuman 2 > I have been asked by so many of you here what it is like on our side of the veil. What do we do to occupy ourselves? What type of jobs do we have? What is it like when you cross over? Where do you go to? It cannot be explained in definitive ways. But, we will try to give you a bit of an overview. In this part of the discussion, we are not speaking about humans in general, but rather we are speaking about Shaumbra.
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< DivineHuman 3 > Recently some of you have been feeling intense galactic activity. You have been feeling that there is much happening out there in the multi-dimensional planes of your universe. You are feeling a pull. You are feeling your energy being pulled to the planets and the galaxies. You know something is happening out there. Some of you are feeling communications from what would be called the ET’s. We call this your past. We want to clarify this before the questions are asked later. "What is happening out there? Why am I feeling all of this activity on the other realms?" The activity is not just in your physical universe. You are feeling the activity from our side of the veil as well.

< DivineHuman 3 > There is as much activity over here as there is on Earth right now. There is much transforming of old energies into New Energy right now. On our side of the veil we are preparing for the New Earth, this place that we will talk about later. The (multi-dimensional) universe is changing because you are changing. Your past is changing because you are releasing. You are letting go. The future is the past healed. The healing is taking place now.

< DivineHuman 8QA > When you come back to our side of the veil, no, your divinity does not automatically come out of what we have described as a cocoon to be with you. Just because I, Tobias, or even Moses, is back here on this side of the veil, indeed we do not have access to our full divinity. That is why we honor the work that you do. As you integrate, as you allow that god-portion of yourself to come into your reality and your moment, and you allow it to be birthed, you allow it to come out of the cocoon. You give it a safe environment for it to come out. It also changes and affects our access to our divinity. As we have said before, you are the ones going first. You are integrating first. When you do, when you bring Home to you, it changes the entire universe. It changes the omniverse.

< NewEnergy 1 > The work we do on this side is the constant gentle reassuring, constant reassuring, constantly sending out waves of love and reassurance that they are loved, and that the way to Spirit begins within. We do not try to change the course that they are on. We do not try to change who they are. But, once in a while when there is an opening, we're able to slip in that gentle reassuring message that comes as a breeze, that comes as a gentle feeling, or thought, or music that says, "You are indeed worthy."

< NewEnergy 3 > You see… when Earth makes a quantum leap, the rest of us can also. When Earth goes from a vibrational state of being into (Old Energy) an energy that expands in all directions simultaneously (New Energy), then we can also. On our side of the veil we are in vibrational reality. Indeed, it is beautiful - the vibration of colors, and sounds, and energies. But, they vibrate. They are linear. When you go into this New Energy, the expanding energy, we can do that also. Then Home can truly come to you. There won't be separation. Then we all embark on a whole new way of living, and growing, and being God in our own right.

< NewEnergy 3QA > Everything on our side of the veil - and indeed on yours - is in a divine order. There are no right and wrong turns, ultimately no good and bad. As we said before, even these alien agendas that were implanted in some of the angels who came to Earth, even we knew about those as part of the order, part of the learning and the understanding, part of the whole process. You don't need the type of Old parental energies that you have had before. Spirit is a child. And the child is just fine. The child comes in perfect in its own right. A child simply wants to feel and express, create and know.

< NewEnergy 4 > Even when you come to our side of the veil, there is still a veil for you. Because you're going through cycles of human experiences, you still carry some of that with you when you come to our side. Oh, it is not like you get here, and then everything is understandable. And, that causes you more frustration. And, that frustration causes you to say, "Damn it, I'm going to go back to Earth and figure it out!" (audience laughter) You see the cycle that you are running in.

< NewEnergy 7 > You had played on all of the other dimensions, all of the etheric dimensions. But, you had never played in matter. It was… it still is the grandest experience, grandest experiment of them all. The things you did on the other dimensions are nothing compared to this. There is a difference… you see. In the non-physical dimensions things are very temporary. Things are very fleeting on our side of the veil where we do not have human bodies. As we have said, we can imagine eating a meal, but we also know that it doesn't contain the fullness and the richness of when you eat a meal. We are simply imagining it. It goes away quickly.

< NewEnergy 7 > "What a difficult thing it is," they say here on our side when they sit around talking, "to forget who you are, to forget your experiences, to forget where you came from." But, yet they want to know, more than anything - a deep, deep passion and desire - what it is like to live. We know this will have you scratching your heads a bit. There is this perception that everything on our side is joyful, and easy, and wonderful without the difficulties and challenges. And, that is true. But, yet we don't know… the ones who have not been in human form do not know what it is like to live… to live. So, there is a long line of them waiting to come in.

< Embodiment 1 > Oh, there are a vast majority of humans on Earth right now… they want there to be an outside demon. They want to battle with it. As miserable as it gets, they want to battle with it. They want to have something to be righteous about, something to blame their own lives on, something to pour their negativity into, and something so they can continue to play the role of victim. So, they create this thing - Satan, Lucifer. It doesn't exist on our side.

< Embodiment 4QA > It is - how to say - a difficult question, for there are those who are elderly or going through a transitional time who want to remain as sharp as possible and as present as possible until the last possible moment. But, they have to understand that there is an aspect of themselves that is releasing the grip on their mental faculties, so they can go out and explore what it is like to cross over.

Now, it raises some interesting questions. When you leave the human body and cross over to our side and come to our side of the veil, there is not a set criteria of what happens. There are many variations. It all depends on a combination of your belief systems and what you choose to embody.

You can come back to our side and choose to bring in a grand feast or celebration for yourself, to be an honored guest at your own party of your own creation. You can choose to come back to our side and hold onto perhaps some religious beliefs that would have you waiting for the savior, waiting to be judged. And, we are delighted to wait with you. And, you will be waiting for a long, long time (audience laughter).

Many of you, Shaumbra, when you come back to our side, you will choose to - how to say - come back here and spend a bit of time. You will choose to take a look at many of the experiences of your life and to play them out or to replay them on many different dimensional levels. You will choose to come back here, as some Shaumbra already have done, and you will take different potentials and look at them to see what would have happened if you would have chosen different potentials. But, when you come back here, there is no set pattern.

So, what happens when - how to say - a non-awakened human begins their transition process and the realization that they are about to die comes over them, they begin to go off and explore all of the different possibilities. They begin to explore the religious and spiritual nature. They begin to explore death. In a sense, they are probing on our side for where they want to land once they leave their body.

So, to take these drugs that you are speaking of here deprives the mind and the spirit of going out and doing this probing. But, yet it keeps them more aware, more functional in your world. So, they have to make the choice.

And, we have to remind you here that it is not for the families to make the choice for them. Many times the families want to give them these pills, demand that these pills be taken, so that these transitioning ones can be - how to say - more able to take care of themselves and to hold conversations and such things. But, you have to understand that there is also an important aspect of letting the mind go, letting the mind wander off prior to death taking place. We are not particularly advocates of any of the drugs that alter the psychological and the psycho-spiritual nature of the human because sooner or later the toll will have to be paid.

< Embodiment 8 > There are intelligent, well-meaning people who believe that there is this place called "heaven." They believe, actually literally, in this being called Saint Peter, who has this register and looks you up after you leave Earth to see if you have been naughty or nice (some laughter)… or perhaps that's Santa Claus (more laughter). In that belief, Shaumbra, reality occurs; it does. Reality occurs because the belief system is there because there is this hypnosis that has been laid out, and people have fallen into its trap. So, there is a hell, and there is a heaven. And, there is judgment on the other realms because the other realms are filled with nothing but grand potential.

< Embodiment 8 > You want an experience? You can have it on the other realms, the nonphysical realms. You can go to heaven. You can go to hell. And, there are millions of souls laying in rest, waiting to be judged, waiting for Yeshua. It is difficult. And, you work with them at night. You are the type of EMS workers for those who are so locked into their own beliefs and their own type of hypnosis. Hypnosis works on both sides of the veil. It does. The churches of Earth have laid out this energy of fear, this energy of the devil. And, it still lays so heavy upon mankind. It (religion) is a relatively new creation and invention. Truly, only in the last six or seven thousand years of humankind has there been this hypnosis of religion. Prior to that we didn't have it.

< Clarity 10 > There are angelic beings who, between lifetimes, give of themselves because they still feel very compassionate about the energy of Earth and the humans that they have left behind. So they, in a sense, volunteer to do this work, to continue to support and to love you. There are other beings who have never been in human form. But they also volunteer, oftentimes shortly before they take on their first human incarnation. So they volunteer on our side of the veil to work with the humans. Particularly the humans who make it known, to themselves and to us, that they're ready. They're ready to drop the guise of the old human energy, ready to drop the old cycle of lifetime after lifetime.

< Clarity 10 > So those who wonder about the quantum leap, "Is it really happening?" Dear Shaumbra, we tell you it is happening very quickly. It is almost upon us. So there are angelic beings on this side who are ready and prepared. They will be assisting those, such as you Shaumbra, who are ready to do a reintegration of New Energy into your physical body and into your consciousness and belief systems. This is a major process and it requires great care so that your physical body doesn't burn out, that your mind doesn't go crazy. There is a continual need for balancing of energies.

< Clarity 10 > These angelic beings are working with you now, often while you sleep but even now more often while you are awake. Right now while you sit here, they are working with you, helping you to fulfill your desire for the reintegration of your entire body, mind and spirit. If it was to happen all at once, surely you would just disintegrate. Surely none of your biology and your mind could handle this great change-over, so it is happening over a period of time.

< Clarity 10 > There are angelic beings on our side who are working with other humans on Earth right now who are going through a type of spiritual awakening process but aren't aware that that's what it is. They are working very closely with these humans because these humans are - how to say - in a very delicate state of being, not sure of who they are anymore or why they are here. Nothing makes sense but they are trying to hold onto some of the old ways. So there are legions of angels who are working with them - even if they don't believe in angels.

< Clarity 10 > There are many angelic beings who are working to maintain a constant moving and balancing of energies of this planet Earth. As Tobias talked in your last discussion, Earth (Gaia) is holding many, many old, old energies and will continue to hold old energies for a course of at least another thirty years. So there are legions of Beings. You could almost see them lined up working with Earth, working with Earth on inter-dimensional levels, not just the physical Earth level but on inter-dimensional levels.

< Clarity 10 > There are legions of Beings - angelic beings on our side - who are preparing for the next influx of humans to come to Earth. But these humans are different. These souls who will be incarnating have never been on Earth before so they require great training - you would say - great understanding. The ones who are training them are the ones who generally have been on Earth. They've experienced what it is like to be in a physical body in a physical place. They are trying to help these new incarnates to understand what it is like to be here, what it is like to potentially forget about who you are, what it is like to work in mass and biology.

< Clarity 10 > There are those on our side of the veil who are working with the planet Earth and how it relates to the rest of the physical Cosmos. There are interconnections that we have with Earth, with all ends of the Omniverse, with not only the physical dimensions but the non-physical as well. And this also requires tremendous balancing. Some of you who are listening in today have been in that service - that service of balancing Earth with the rest of the Cosmos. And yes indeed, with other civilizations -but none quite like the humans, with other dimensions and aspects of life in those dimensions. It requires a tremendous legion of angelic beings who are in service to continue performing this task.

< Clarity 10 > Also on our side of the veil, in the angelic realms, beyond the dimensions that are directly connected to Earth, beyond the crystalline dimensions, are the angelic levels of your spiritual family - what you call your angel family. They have been waiting and watching. They have been waiting for you, as a representative of the spiritual family... they've been waiting for humanity in general... to evolve, to grow, to learn on Earth.

< Clarity 10 > Tobias has talked before and said yes, even angels get tired - particularly those who work very close to the Earth realms - for the energy of Earth is strong; it is heavy. It is, in a sense, beyond just physical gravity. It is a type of energetic gravity that pulls beings - angelic beings - to Earth. And if they are not properly balanced and they don't have their support team, it could literally cause them to fall into a cycle of incarnation even when they don't necessarily choose it. The draw to Earth is so strong.

< Clarity 10 > So yes indeed, the angelic beings, we do get tired. A different tired than you do physically, but it can be very draining on the energies. That is why we tend to come and go. For there are times when we have to go far away from the Earth energies to recuperate our own... to get our own sense of balance and well-being back. So you're also feeling a continual shift and movement in angelic beings coming in, your runners, the ones who support you.

< Teacher 1 > Now that one single thought basically goes out into the other realms and on our side of the veil, that single thought causes a thousand-plus responses to take place on our side. There are angels who have to work at balancing and shuttling those energies. Every single thought that you have like that has a thousand reverberations on our side, and those reverberations even reach back into time, back into where everything came to a standstill. So you can imagine the amount of work that has to be done here, on our realms, basically helping to continually balance and adjust every piece of consciousness that you develop.