New Earth Series 11 Q&A Session
Presented at the Crimson Circle April 8, 2000
Original Website http://www.crimsoncircle.com/
And so it is, dear friends, that we are here again in this energy (returning from the channeling earlier in the evening). Indeed we never left during this time while you feasted. We stayed here in this room and enjoyed your company, the company of humans. We stayed to continue the work that we began with you, and we will continue to do that with you even throughout this session, even throughout your night, even as you sleep tonight.
Now during the channeled session earlier (see Tobias channeling April 8, 2000), our friend who channels these messages, the human who we call Cauldre (Geoffrey Hoppe) … he asked us when would we stop telling stories and get to the important information. (chuckle) Now it is to say that this discussion on this night was different than the other channels that we have had. There was a story. There were many metaphors in the story. We ask each of you to look at these, to read or to listen to them again, for there are many, many things here that are pertinent to your lives now and pertinent to the things that will happen.
But as we told our friend, more than anything during this time, the words were relevant but somewhat of a distraction. Indeed there was much energy work being done with each of you through the intent you have given, through the path you have taken. It was time for a deep adjustment that is best done in an energy like this, with family like this. It is best done when your mind and your ears are focused on a story, so we could work very closely.
At the beginning of the channeling, if you will remember, we asked for permission to take you through a doorway. With your heart open and permission given then we began to do the true energetic work that was in front of us. The doorway also led to the house of metaphors that we discussed. The true work was done on the other levels. All of this, my friends, goes to building the house of the Divine Human that you are.
This work will continue here for some time to come. Tonight the energies were appropriate to begin the very deep internal cellular work and the deep internal work of consciousness. So now at this time we would be happy to attempt to answer your questions. We will also continue to work with you at other levels throughout this session and throughout this night. So let us begin with the first question.
QUESTION: When I took a dive onto the spiritual path
15-20 years ago, I left behind a belief system and took on a new one. It seems
that every two to five years I do that in terms of trying to understand how
the body is structured… how the universe was created… all that stuff. I
picked one up. I took it to my heart. It became mine, and I then realized, as
I was walking down the path, that it was wrong. So I found another one. I
picked it up… all through these 15-20 years. Right now I’m in a spot where
I have dumped another system, and I am system-free right now. Finding another
system seems like a pointless way to do this… another way to occupy this
mind. The question I have for you is, is there a way to unity with the
God-self, with God without finding, or using, or needing a mental system?
TOBIAS: A very simple answer to your very profound question… and the answer is, "yes." In our gathering last month we discussed the concept of "do NO-thing" We get through feedback that this has been somewhat difficult to do, but for all who are here, all who are reading this, this is the time to release the systems. This is the time to put the old books back on the bookshelf, for you will not find the answers there.
The house that we talked of today, the house that is being constructed, is unlike any house that has ever been blueprinted before. It is new. It is different. It comes from the deepest core of yourself.
We have talked in previous discussions that the greater part of yourself, the True Self as you would call it, has been in a type of cocoon, an inward-looking type of energy. It is time that that True Self is emerging. It seeks to reunite with you, the one that carries human consciousness. It will stand and patiently wait - your True Self - until you release, until you put down all of your old systems.
You are attempting to define yourself and God through systems, through the intellect. As you know, all of you here, it cannot be done that way. It is done simply when you come to a place of quiet and peace… when you come to a place of trusting… when you come to a place of doing no human thing and allowing the spiritual to take over.
All of you here who carry the belief that I Am, for all of you who carry concepts that you are part of Spirit, that you are children of God… all of you who hold onto certain philosophies… it is time for you to release these. There is no way in your current human consciousness that you can understand the joy and the expanse and the love of Spirit. This is a difficult thing for you. You have all studied much. All of you have held onto doctrine. Most of you here have created doctrine in your past. Now is the time of stillness and quiet. In doing so your True Self can now come to you, can now reunite with you. Through this you will begin to understand things you could never understand through your systems, through your mind.
Several months ago in a discussion here, we mentioned that there would be controversy and difficulty with some of the information that we bring forth, because we would be asking you to release those things that you held dearly. Now we come and remind you that it is time to let all of that go. In your human consciousness you can not possibly imagine what it is like to have oneness with Spirit and with yourself. It is the time to stop trying to remodel the old house and allow the new house to be built. We thank you for your question.
QUESTION: Hello, Tobias. Thank you for all of your information. I would just like you, if you could, to reframe a word that I am just so sick of hearing. And that word just happens to be "patience." Please be as direct as possible.
TOBIAS: We will reframe this quite simply for you. Replace the word "patience" with the word "trust."
QUESTION: Tobias, thank you very much for all of the help tonight and all of the company. I had an experience today that I would like to share with you and ask your advice on. I have been teaching Reiki at a federal prison and today one of the inmates said they were setting up a sweat lodge. They asked for prayers because there had been a lot of negative energies surrounding the organization of the sweat lodge, the running of it. I agreed to help out when I got home.
So I sent the energy, set up the sacred space for them and after about five minutes or so, then there was an image of a real stereotypical demon, devil-type figure which I asked Spirit to kindly bag and take away for rehab somewhere. Given that it is a prison there is a lot of negative energy there and a lot of entities there that maybe do not have the best intentions. What would be the best way to teach the inmates how to deal with those entities?
TOBIAS: My dear, there is in this situation that you are speaking of very negative energies. These are, how to say, coming from the inmates themselves in most cases, but they are attracting outer negative energies here. The demon symbol that you saw represents ill intent on the part of some who are involved in this. They are using this opportunity for very selfish purposes.
Now you were experiencing this energy in the form of a demon, and for all of you who experience these types of things in your earthly lives… it is to know first that these demons, these monsters, these dark representations that will come to you from time to time do not hold any true power or energy. They can be told by you to go away. It is not so appropriate now as the Divine Human to ask Spirit to take them, but to take that empowerment yourself, to demand that these negative energies go away and not interfere.
These are excellent learning opportunities for each of you to walk through. And again we ask you not to defer to the angels or the guides or to even a general concept of Spirit, but to begin to take this within. This is the time of your empowerment. As you learn to use this, you will be able to walk through the darkest of dark situations. You will be able then to work closely with the light intent of those people that are involved in this project to where the others leave and they don’t understand why they are no longer a part of this program.
QUESTION: Tobias, I’m finding that through these changes that are happening, a lot of this is affecting my work, you know, where I am getting an income. I’m finding that in the last month and a half or so that memory problems, I mean serious things that are affecting what I do day to day… it’s as though I have lost part of my… or misplaced part of my insight and foresight and intuition. Now when you are dealing with people around you in a world of business who are not involved in the kinds of things that we are… you can’t share that and say, "oh, guess what, my spirit is working with me today, and you know I’m under reconstruction." You can’t do that. I’m finding it difficult to keep balanced while these things are happening. Can you give me any insight or help with this?
TOBIAS: Indeed, your old wiring of the old house is no longer being able to hold the new energy that is coming in. It is that the humans that you are working with are not so aware. You are much more aware of these inconsistencies. You are much more aware that you are not grounded like you used to be. So it is simply not to worry at this time. You do not need to explain to them what is going on for many will not understand. It is simply to know that they are not quite so aware as you are of the situation.
As you move into your new house, as we gave in the metaphor in the channeling earlier today, you will find a totally different type of connection with your memory, with all things that you need to know. For now, my dear, simply trust that it is appropriate. We understand and indeed have some empathy of what you are going through.
QUESTION: Tobias, thank you for being with us and for your patience and your help in gaining our trust. The question that I have is not only for me but possibly for a good many other people worldwide. We have gone through - and I am referring back to your channeling "The Lost Children of Christ" - and through that period of time and up until last December, we were going through much of the old energy. Those of us that were spiritually oriented were able to closely co-exist with those in the 3rd dimension. But now with the energy shifts we are going to be finding these gaps widening tremendously. The question in my mind is this. Those of us that are going into the new energy, are we going to have relationships in the new energy and in the new world, similar but on a higher level than what we had in the old energy?
TOBIAS: There are several questions within your question, dear friend, which we will address here. This is all quite appropriate. First as relates to the previous question that was asked about the feeling of being disconnected and the effect it has on other people, whether they observe this in you.
In your relationships, as you move into the new energy, as you accept your divinity within you, you may not feel as connected in relationships as you did before. You may have had a relationship in your old house that served you well but no longer feels appropriate. On the other hand, the one you had the relationship with within the old house is now feeling closer and more bonded to you.
They see something happening within you. They feel something happening. They feel more connected. They sense your light and your peace. So while your observation may be that the relationship is changing or moving further away, from their perspective it may be that the relationship is getting stronger and better.
In the new energy the relationship that will matter, that will be of the utmost importance here is the one with yourself, the one with your Divinity. You will not feel the need to seek outside relationships, though they will come quite naturally and quite beautifully.
As a reminder, they may not be with those entities that have crossed into the new energy. For purposes of balance there may be ones that you meet that are on no spiritual path, that are in the old energy. But these relationships can be absolutely appropriate.
The first relationship, my friend, will be with your own divine self. From there you will begin to understand the dynamics and the importance and the energy of an appropriate relationship. Those who are in relationships now that they feel do not serve them, as many here and reading this are in… as we have said before (and again somewhat of a difficult concept), now in these next two months is not the appropriate time to be making major shifts or decisions. You will see here after the major energy changes that take place between now and the end of May that things will happen quite naturally. After this time period you will have a deep knowingness of what to do with that relationship. Related to our discussion of last month, this is not the best time to make these major changes.
TOBIAS: The sleep patterns that Lightworkers are experiencing right now are one of the most noticeable things. They will change from person to person. Some will feel the need for more sleep, and, yes, still be tired because, as we mentioned at the beginning of our session tonight, you are not experiencing typical sleep for there is so much construction activity going on at night. There is so much going on within the deeper levels of self that you will sleep much and still feel tired. This too will change within the next 6 weeks of your time.
There are others who are sleeping very little and also feeling very tired. They would like to get more sleep but based on the construction plan, it is not appropriate right now. The end result of this will, for most here but not for all, be that you require less sleep and you will feel more energized during your activities.
But also you will find the need after your month of May to take several break periods during the day. You will find that you can recharge very quickly in a matter of five or ten minutes of your time, but you will need to remove yourself from activities and other people. You will need several of these break periods in addition to your regular sleep. Your methods of recharging and rejuvenating your biology will change quite a bit after this current time period.
QUESTION: Thank you, Tobias, for being here with us. As we know there are many paths that lead to the same destination. I’ve come across a path called "the spiritual school of ascension." It is channeled by the Order of Rize. Are you familiar with them and can you shed more light on them?
TOBIAS: Here we must call in others. (pause) There are many groups at this time working with humans at different levels. This group that you refer to has a mission with a specific group of humans, not large in size. It has a mission based on old schools that the group of humans has been involved in, old schools of Egypt where you were connected. You have chosen to bring forward certain teachings from that time. We are searching here in what you would call the archangel realms to see if there is a direct connection, and we see none. This is essentially the energy of the humans who were together before in the schools of Egypt who now seek ascension through an old teaching. That is what we know of this group.
QUESTION: Tobias, I have a question that is largely personal but ultimately I think it will yield information that is useful to everybody. My brother was killed two years ago. The murder trial is just now happening, not coincidentally in the last week of April, the first week of May. Over the course of the last two years, this whole drama has served to precipitate a huge polarization wherein my few remaining family members are one side and I alone am on the other. I have pretty much been designated as the scapegoat for their anger, guilt, and shame that they are not capable of owning at this time. It has been incredibly difficult, and at the same time it has been a profound playing field for me to exercise the old space and the new space. I know it’s an extreme situation, but what I have encountered is that in the space of this polarization where they’re in the old energy, the judgement, the blaming, the scapegoating, the not owning of responsibility, and me trying to be in the new energy. There is such insanity in that space because it is so opposite, mirror opposite. I want to be loving. I have compassion. I have the capacity to understand the contract and all that. What happens in the moment of trying to have a relationship, in a very momentary concrete conversational immediate level… there is insanity. For me to interact seems to require me compromising my integrity or the truth of who I am. It’s almost like I have to go back into a small box and be who they are before they can even talk to me. If I do confront them with my truth, it’s so big; it looks confrontational and unkind. Basically my wish is not to impose any more pain on my mother and father. It’s almost like I cannot share space with them. My question comes to when we encounter that absolute - where those two spaces actually bump into each other in a concrete way - how are we with the latitude of consciousness to deal with the insanity?
TOBIAS: This is a personal question indeed, but one that applies to all here and all reading. As you move more and more into the new energy and as you accept your divinity, you will begin affecting situations quite differently than you are now. Where now you speak directly to and you enter the space of the humans you are relating to, as you unfold, as you become empowered, you will be working with them energetically on the nonverbal levels in other communications. You will not feel trapped by their chaos, their lower energy chaos.
You will be working with them on their True Self level. Then you will not trapped. You will not feel anxious as you do now. You will not feel the tightening in your own chest and the tension in your muscles. You will to begin to affect situations at a different level. You will not inflict your will, so to speak, but you will walk in carrying a very bright light that will change the nature and the direction of the entire situation.
My friends, the tools that you work with now as humans, they have served you well. The new tools of the new energy, the new house where you will live will be quite different. They will operate on much gentler, much subtler, yet more powerful levels. In your situation here, my dear, simply be there. You are causing yourself much struggle in thinking that you need to change or affect the situation. But you are also feeling, as you said, much of the pressure of the old energy. Now as you deal with the situation, bring in your divinity into that and watch how things automatically change around you. We know you would have preferred a more specific and less esoteric answer, but this is what we see.
QUESTION: Tobias, I belong to another group in Colorado called the Mark. It’s a channeling channeled by Jeanette Crowley. It’s a very small group but it has a lot of light. Could you explain the connection, if there is one, between you and this group?
TOBIAS: In most cases there is not a strong interaction between groups on our side. We are aware of much of the work being done but the work we do and the work the Mark group does are highly focused. Many times they are subsets of each other. Many times they are using the same basic energy principles, but yet dealing with entirely different groups. This group that you are working with is indeed a small group with a specific mission or goal here of guiding this group of humans through some somewhat difficult changes. We do see and are aware of the healthy effect of this group. We choose, however, not to make strong comments about any other particular group, but it is for you to know that each serves unique purposes.
TOBIAS: You have been involved with both groups of humans in the past and specifically your energy is needed as a balance for the Mark group. It is important that you are there for a type of unity. On the other hand you have been involved with the Crimson Council as family. You could say that the work with the Mark group is part of your outreach program.
QUESTION: Tobias, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for opening up the wonderful love energy. My question concerns moving into the contract that I came here for. I’m sure others have had this thought. Once we get through this six week time period, will some of the restrictions be less that have held myself back from moving into what really resonates with me? Will I be able to release those old energies so that the way feels clear to proceed?
TOBIAS: In a word, "yes." You will be quite surprised at the restrictions that are taken off, as you say. It is truly a thinning of the veil. It is your ability to work through the various levels of the veil to adapt to them. But we would caution all here and all who read this that the changes that you will see in your life are not necessarily the ones that you would expect sitting here on this day. It will be quite different. To continue with our metaphors of the night, many humans simply expect a grand remodeling job on their old house, but that is not appropriate. It is a new house unlike any other that you have seen that is being built.
We mentioned earlier that we will come back next month for the house warming. This is to get you accustomed to the new energy. Then we will come back in June for our walk-through, for you to become acclimated to the first part of your new tools. Then the true work will begin in August, but as we say, it will not necessarily be what you think it will be. There is much work that has gone on. There are many changes that are taking place. It will be a wonderful but a very different energy for you to be working on.
QUESTION: Tobias, as I understand it, after we go through the change, then we will be able to create a new contract without needing to come back. Is that true?
TOBIAS: In a sense you have already created that new contract through your intent, through your prayers that have been heard. You have created a new direction for yourself. If you could back up for a moment and look from my overview or perspective, look at the major challenges that you are going through right now, whether it is the challenge of relationship, the challenge of truth, the challenge of inner trust.
The things that are affecting you the most right now are the things you will be teaching to others in the future. This will be your contract. Why do you think it is so difficult right now? It is because you are working through the most challenging parts of that energy. For those who are having difficulty with relationships now, you will be teaching others of a new type of relationship. For those who are facing the issues of truth, you will be teaching others of the simple, pure truths of Spirit. Look at the issues that you are working through now. That is the contract that you have already penned for yourself for the future.
QUESTION: Tobias, thank you for being here with us. I have a personal question but it might be one that is of interest to others. I have been asked to speak to a group on healing and energy work. This particular group is a group of women that have termed themselves as Nazarenes, Lutherans, Christians and Methodists. My question is how to speak to them on energy work and healing of themselves without offending them and without having them look down on me. Incidentally the program has been entitled "God does the healing and the doctor takes the fee."
TOBIAS: Indeed this will be an interesting working of old energy and new. It is best, my dear, to simply speak your Truth. There is a funny tendency on the part Lightworkers to feel defensive about their beliefs. In feeling defensive they set up an energy barrier when working with others. This is felt by the others. They feel that something is not quite right. What you have to say to this group, my dear, resonates with them, perhaps not in their minds, but in their hearts.
This again is a good example of working on the non-verbal levels with them. This is part of your practice and working with your new Divinity. There are not words that you need to speak to defend yourself. When you go into this in love and in truth, they will understand. Perhaps when you leave, they will wonder what the heck you were talking about. They will understand in their hearts. For all here these are excellent examples of the working in the new energy, to simply be there in your truth. Not so much in the mind, but use your one chakra, your "allness." You will see that situations will be quite different than what you have experienced in the past.
Most here have been on the path for many, many lifetimes. Most here have been in search of Truth. Most here have rejected the organized religions. And most here were the ones who organized the organized religions. (much laughter) You have been used to rejection from others. You have been considered somewhat eccentric by your own family and friends. But at the heart of this was your intent for Truth, your intent for Divinity. Now you are at that point. The Earth and the mass consciousness are at the time when that is appropriate. Simply be in your Truth, and you will see others change around you.
QUESTION: I have been led recently to pursue a particular past life and gather information on it. It’s fascinating. I was wondering if that would be something that is particular to me or if that is what everyone will go through in this process?
TOBIAS: There are cases here where delving into past lives is an important part of your individual process. For the most part we say it is time to leave the old books on the bookshelves. In our gathering a month ago we went in to release the residual energy of past lives that still existed but were trapped on Earth. We worked with all of those to bring the dead from their graves back to life for judgement day, so to speak. For most at this time it is not appropriate to go back into past lives; however, if there are specific blockages that are making it difficult for you to move forward, then you will be guided specifically to go into those past lives. If you are being guided there, my dear, then continue with this work.
TOBIAS: That would be, um, the… Egyptians. (tremendous laughter) There was interesting technology that was used that has not been brought back. There was the use of "magnified" energies at the time. There were priests who were extremely proficient in what you would call mind control that would gather large groups of people and concentrate the thought on specific areas. These thoughts were then transmitted from the group of humans through a series of crystal gridworks that were sent to another group of humans that would then literally lift the stones. They found within themselves great, great strength.
As we say, this was "magnified" energy going from one group of humans to another. This type of energy work is still available. It will take much studying to bring forth. But as we say, these are all tools of the old energy. In your new energy, creating will be much different and certainly much easier than before. In answer to your question, it was the humans at the time that lived in that land who built the pyramids through the wisdom and the science of the priests of the time.
QUESTION: I have noticed in finding my center last October that there is a movement of that center internally. Has that settled down or can I expect a little bit more movement? What about other people that are noticing similar shifts?
TOBIAS: That is an excellent question. There will continue to be many shifts. As we have said before, where you used to go to find answers, where you used to go to find out who you are is changing and will continue to change. You will find when you go back to the old places, the old consciousness, that you will be frustrated. You will feel that you have hit a wall. It will continue to shift and change. We will work specifically with this group, and those connected via your internet. We will work specifically with you beginning in your month of August for how to again find what you would call your center.
QUESTION: Tobias, thank you for being helpful with our questions. I work with a spirit guide by the name of White Feathers. A gift of light medicine was given to me. I want to know how to take care of my body to receive this gift and how to use this gift.
TOBIAS: White Feathers asks you to directly ask him.
QUESTION (from the same person): I tried that and it seems that there is a blockage that will not allow me to work with White Feathers.
TOBIAS: We mean this in all seriousness, my dear, but this is part of your own challenge to open up to receive this information. This guide (White Feathers) is one you truly have known quite well. He would like you to go inward into your being. The connection is there between the two of you. Part of the lesson here… there is a joke behind all this, he tells us… is for you to work directly with him. We choose not to reveal the lessons or the humor behind this, but we ask you to share it with us in upcoming meetings. We say in all seriousness, this was an excellent question. White Feathers has been trying to work with you and needed for you to hear this directly.
It is also good for each and everyone here to begin working from within. You will find when you defer answers to your guides that they are not there. They are not home. You are being asked, you are being challenged now to continually look inwards. That is one reason why sometimes it is painful and it is difficult and you feel frustrated. There were times in the past when you would defer and you would ask your guides. They have left the old house now. They have left you so that you can find the answers within. You will continue to be challenged with this, finding the answers within until you find that place, until you find that center to begin operating in the new. That is one of the greatest challenges for all that are here.
TOBIAS: There is great honor for the work of Malchizadek, great honor, for it has helped many, many of family to get to this point. We have stated that all of the old systems have brought much good. They have brought you to this place, but my friends, each of you are the ones who will be writing the new books. We are asking you now to gently and lovingly put down the old books. They have brought you here. They have guided you well. You will find that if you continue to try to use them that you will become frustrated. You will become angry with Spirit. You will find that the energy is flat and not appropriate. It is time to move forward. It is time to move into the new energy.
There is one place for each of you where the answers will come from. You will not need to look into other systems. You will not need to take specific types of vitamins or have specific diets. There are not specific books you will need to learn or certain rituals you will need to go through. You are being called out from your True Self, from the Golden Angel within to look at one thing now, to look within. A Great Master said that all things come from within, that the Spirit of God, the Father, Mother is within. It is within each of you. It is time to bring that out now. We are not asking you to reject the books and the systems that have brought you here. We are simply asking you to put them on the bookshelf, to begin walking in the new energy, and then with what you learn, as we say, you will be the ones writing the new books.
Dear friends, we know you are going through many challenges at this time. As our friend Cauldre complained of recently… he said it felt like all of the old energy ways, all of who he thought he was is being ripped from the bone, is being torn away. We understand that many who are here feel the same way. That is in a sense precisely what is happening. All of those energy patterns that are no longer appropriate are being torn away if you don’t release them. Even if you give your intent to release them, sometimes they stick; sometimes they want to hold on. In all appropriateness the new energy is causing them to be torn away. This will not just happen with you personally, but this is happening on a global consciousness level. Again as we said in our discussion with you in late December, watch your headlines. See what happens. Watch the great swings go up and down. Watch the topsy-turvy. It is happening all around you.
You are the ones who are going through it on the deeper intimate levels to begin with. This is the classroom of the new spiritual energy. This is where we will discuss and learn about the new energy. In several months of your time we will begin to specifically work with it. We are speaking now in these past few months about energy events that are happening. Here in several months of your time we will begin working with the new tools. In the meantime we ask you to not only be patient with the process, but to simply trust the process and trust who you are.
And so it is, dear friends.
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